ошибка в Metering Mode (SJ8 Pro)

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  1. higor

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    Камера SJ8 Pro в настройках Metering Mode ошибка. Если установлено Усредненный режим, камера снимает как Точечный, и соответственно наоборот, при съёмке в режиме замера экспозиции Точечных, камера снимает как Усредненный. это было в прошивке 1.2.6, так как она кривая, снес и установил 1.2.4. тоже самое. Я написал уже в тех. поддержку, не знаю как долго будут исправлять, но имейте ввиду, кто пользуется этой настройкой. Ссылки на тестовые записи в гугл диск публикую ниже

    The SJ8 Pro camera in the Metering Mode settings error. If the Averaged mode is set, the camera shoots as a Spot, and vice versa, when shooting in the spot metering mode, the camera shoots as averaged. it was in the firmware 1.2.6, since it is a curve, pulled down and installed 1.2.4. same. I wrote in support, I do not know how long will fix, but keep in mind who is using this setting. Links to the test record in the Google disk are published below.
     
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  2. Sulev Svilponis

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    Возможно, это только ошибка перевода и существует только в русской версии графического интерфейса (переведенные ярлыки случайно менялись в процессе локализации). Трудно представить себе, как подобные ошибки вводятся другими способами.

    Maybe this is only translation error and exists only in the Russian GUI version (translated labels swapped accidentally in the localization process). Hard to imagine, how this kind of errors are introduced other ways.

    Somebody who is using the English version should check this out. Very strange error, if it exists in all language versions!
     
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    Нет это в глобальной версии. И это уже не первая ошибка которую я замечал. В SJ8 Air перепутаны настройка Резкость (harshness) Мягкая это Сильная, и соответственно наоборот. Это косяки, прошивки.

    No it's in the global version. And this is not the first mistake I noticed. The SJ8 Air bug in Sharpness settings. The setting is Soft and Strong confused. These are firmware errors.
     
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    I've no idea what the issues is?
     
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    Я не задаю вопрос, я говорю про факт, эта ошибка в прошивке, и ОЧЕНЬ серьезная ошибка, которую нужно исправлять.
     
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    English please.
     
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    Metering Mode.
    In the settings menu Spot metering mode, but the camera shoots with The Average metering mode.
    In the settings menu the Average mode, but the camera shoots with a Spot metering mode.
    20180905195549_0040: Metering Mode: Spot; ISO: max1600 https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Fd0eU5AI7iiRgtX3eKMJ7qn_xgJMRZ0V
    20180905195629_0041: Metering Mode: Center; ISO: max1600 https://drive.google.com/open?id=1BNhT8VXcRZDeeqTZwM2Pfsu1XMyzjecs
    20180905195706_0042: Metering Mode: Average; ISO: max1600 https://drive.google.com/open?id=1moPpkSOM6KDtFBXWAoGr_BteaNwo0Wb6
     
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    Can you try to change to English language and see if the camera options are still incorrect? I could be as sulev says and the translations are mixed up.
     
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    There is no Russian language in the menu, I have the English language settings !!!!!!
     
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    It really seems, that the Average and the Spot metering are swapped in the FW menu, if the results are like this. Should be easy to fix - it's just wrong labels in the menu.
    I don't have SJ7 nor SJ8 yet, but based on user manuals, there was a change in the order of metering modes menu - SJ7 has Center Weighted, Multi, or Spot, but SJ8 has Average (equivalent to the SJ7's Multi), Center Weighted, or Spot. That change could introduced this kind of mistake. Of course, better recheck SJ7 metering modes too.
     
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    What would be the best situation to test the issue? I can check after work today.
     
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    The best test situation is like in higor's samples - dark ambient environment with a bright spot in the center. Actual metering mode is recognizable according to the brightness of the dark edges of recorded frames. The Average/Multi should result brightest edges. The spot should result the darkest.
     
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    Will try tonight.
     
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    Друзья, ошибка в прошивке есть. Я не задавал вопрос, я предупреждаю пользователей. Я эту информацию уже передал в техническую поддержку. Я не любитель, я тестирую камеры, я знаю как должна снимать камера в разных режимах замера экспозиции.

    Friends, there's a bug in the firmware. I did not ask a question, I warn users. I have already transferred this information to technical support. I'm not an amateur, I'm testing the cameras, I know how to shoot the camera in different modes of exposure metering.
     
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    Yes, the bug is in the FW - wrong labeling. Small bug, easy to fix.
     
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    В SJ7 режим измерения экспозиции работает правильно. Мое предположение, что в SJ8 Pro, инженеры просто перепутали последовательность. Последовательность в SJ7 - Центр-Усредненный-Точечный. Последовательность в SJ8 Pro - Центр-Точечный- Усредненный. Это исправляется очень легко, меняется пункты в меню Точечный на Усредненный.

    At SJ7, the exposure measurement mode works correctly. My guess is that at SJ8 Pro engineers just confused the sequence. The sequence in SJ7 is Center-Averaged-Spot. The sequence in SJ8 Pro is Center-Spot-Average. This fixes very easily, changing the items in the Spot to Average menu.
     
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    Такого не должно быть. Это очень большой прокол. Эта камера называется Pro. Для обнаружения таких неточностей должны быть специальные люди, проверяющие настройки, или их нет, или они так "хорошо" работают. Это не первый случай.

    This should not be. This is a very big puncture. This camera is called Pro. To detect such inaccuracies, there must be special people checking the settings, or they are not, or they are "working" so well. This is not the first time.
     
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    I'm sure the issue will be fixed in the next update if the firmware guys confirm it's a bug. At present it's only you who's reported it out of all the users they currently have.

    I'll check my camera tonight after work. If I too have the issue I'll post the bug in the testers lounge.
     
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    The problem is still the same with SJ8pro firmware 1.2.9. Average is similar to spot mode with conventional cameras. When the camera is turned on, all three measurement values are the same.
     
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    1.3.0 still are swapped (eng localization) :( Does anyone from SJCam devs/managers read this forum?
     

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